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Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:39 pm
by s4s4u
Smokinbubba wrote:Anyone fill the butt end of the factory Tupperware with expanding foam to add rigidity? Feels kinda thin. Don’t want to put a Boyd’s on it at this time. Thx, Bubba


Not a Savage stock, but I filed the storage cavity of my A2 with POP to add some weight.

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:01 pm
by Hoot
s4s4u wrote:
Smokinbubba wrote:Anyone fill the butt end of the factory Tupperware with expanding foam to add rigidity? Feels kinda thin. Don’t want to put a Boyd’s on it at this time. Thx, Bubba


Not a Savage stock, but I filed the storage cavity of my A2 with POP to add some weight.


I can't resist. Did that then qualify it as a popgun? :lol:

I too have filled a couple of A2 stocks and eventually a couple of A1 stocks with fiberglass reinforced bondo. I made the mistake of filling one with clear resin, which after hardening, shrunk just enough to drop out, having made a perfect cast of the inside of the stock. In a couple of them I cast cavities to put reciprocating spring weights in. Believe it or not, they have a positive effect upon recoil that is greater than just the weight. Another story...

Hoot

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:00 am
by Al in Mi
Smokinbubba wrote:I’m guessing replicate a case out of stainless. Make one max length and one min length and screw the barrel in till it’s in the middle. I saw somewhere the lengths for both go and no-go somewhere. Maybe on the reamer rental page.


I'll measure mine tonight and let you know.

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:01 am
by Hoot
Considering the fact that the difference between most GO and No-Go gauges falls around 5/1000th's of an inch, the tough part is torquing the barrel nut to spec without anything changing during that process. You have to accept that it will change a little and screw in the barrel (a couple thousandth's) longer than GO and hope that after torquing it hasn't gone shorter than GO. I've had problem barrels take a half dozen attempts before getting them to fall into the measurement I like. It's imperative that you remove the ejector, extractor and cocking mechanism from the bolt to afford you the "touch" feeling of when the bolt face engages the gauge. It's a subtle threshold.

Hoot

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:58 am
by Smokinbubba
Awesome AL. Thanks much.
Hoot, I understand this may take a few attempts to get it right. Since I am not a machinist but more like a hobby metal shaver, I'm used to "winging it" to make things work. But I have a set of mic's and not afraid of using them!
As for the stock, I think I will use expanding foam with a couple bars of lead to get the weight up and the balance where I want it. As a youth trap shooting coach I understand the Importance of weight for recoil reduction. I have lots of experience in stock work but it's all been in walnut.

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:07 am
by coyote wacker
Smokinbubba wrote:Anyone fill the butt end of the factory Tupperware with expanding foam to add rigidity? Feels kinda thin. Don’t want to put a Boyd’s on it at this time. Thx, Bubba


I have used spray foam many times....it works very good....

Just make sure you tape around the end and cover the rest of the stock use a couple clamps or a vise to hold up right that way both hand are ready in case something happens .....foam can expand a lot more than you think and make a real mess....

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:39 am
by Smokinbubba
I have a luthiers vise I use to build custom muzzleloaders. It has 2 large wood jaws that swivel to firmly clamp odd shapes. I can clamp it in upright to create my homemade savage volcano. :D

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:13 pm
by Al in Mi
Gage lengths.

1.700 go, 1.710 no go.

.474 straight diameter

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:01 pm
by s4s4u
Hoot wrote:
s4s4u wrote:
Smokinbubba wrote:Anyone fill the butt end of the factory Tupperware with expanding foam to add rigidity? Feels kinda thin. Don’t want to put a Boyd’s on it at this time. Thx, Bubba


Not a Savage stock, but I filed the storage cavity of my A2 with POP to add some weight.


I can't resist. Did that then qualify it as a popgun? :lol:

I too have filled a couple of A2 stocks and eventually a couple of A1 stocks with fiberglass reinforced bondo. I made the mistake of filling one with clear resin, which after hardening, shrunk just enough to drop out, having made a perfect cast of the inside of the stock. In a couple of them I cast cavities to put reciprocating spring weights in. Believe it or not, they have a positive effect upon recoil that is greater than just the weight. Another story...

Hoot


That might catch on, but I was just being lazy. POP = Plaster Of Paris

I lined the cavity with a plastic produce bag so I can undo it if I don't like it.

Re: Axis build. Should i?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:26 am
by Smokinbubba
Al in Mi wrote:Gage lengths.

1.700 go, 1.710 no go.

.474 straight diameter


Super. Thx Al !!