teddy_d wrote:PyroRobby wrote:This is reassuring, have been wondering and wanting confirmation regarding a hunter's consensus to what is big enough for Texas hogs and does the 450B fall into the consensus of the master hunters.
(Article mentions opinion regarding 450B hog hunting)
http://texaswildhoghunting.com/services.html(I just returned from an interesting trip in Texas where I tested the .450 Bushmaster with some engineering samples of the new Remington Hog Hammer ammo featuring the 275-grain Barnes XPB Bullet with an advertised muzzle velocity of 2,175 ft/s. I shot eight hogs, ranging from a large boar to a few eating-size pigs. I gotta say, the .450 Bushmaster is a true AR-15 hog hunting cartridge. I have some prior experience with the cartridge using the softer cup and core bullets that were previously available in factory loads. They were great for deer, but a bit soft for tough stuff like big hogs. The Barnes XPB Bullets that Remington is loading in the Hog Hammer Ammo change all that. The Barnes XPB Bullets expand to nearly double diameter and out of the nine hits all but one exited. I had to shoot largest boar a second time because I hit him too far back with a running shot the first time. The second bullet hit the shoulder and was lodged under the skin behind the opposite shoulder. All other bullets exited, as they should. Another bandwagon I never jumped on was “leave the bullet in the animal and dump all the energy.” I prefer a bullet to exit with a lot of remaining energy. That way the wound channel is large right to the exit. If I can get a long, large, hole through any critter I don’t care how much bullet energy is “wasted” on the ground behind them. Energy doesn’t kill big game animals, tissue damage does. That’s why I favor big, heavy bullets with plenty of power driving them for hunting hogs. AR-15 cartridges like the .450 Bushmaster with the new Hog Hunter ammo and Barnes XPB bullets are just about perfect.)
There was another article I read regarding shot placement, said heart shot with a proper round. This implies these hunters from this hog hunting group have blessed the 450B with 275 grain Barnes as "a hog rifle"? seems so to me.
Thanks for the information, I have a couple of questions.
1. What were the shooting distances?
2. Were shoulder blades or leg bones involved?
3. The hog requiring an additional shot what bones were involved with the second shot placement?
4. what was your typical point of aim?
Thanks in advance
This specific article doesn't provide the details of each shot placement or distances, those are good questions.
After reading through several articles, it finally surface from those that tend to push the .270 and 30-06, and disfavor the AR15 rounds including the .223, 5.56 and 300 blackout, push for traditional heart shots, it was a happy moment to see them say they approved of the 450B in the 275 grain barnes. Most of those articles, which I am having trouble finding again at the moment, thought they would only use the 450B inside 100 yards, so that implies the traditionalist, that like heart shots and 30-06s, think the 450B 275 was acceptable for big hogs.
Here is the article, seems I posted the wrong link, corrected.
https://brycetowsley.com/hunting/hoggish-opinionsSorry for the confusion, I just realized it might seem I was posting a link to where I hunted and then comments regarding results. The link of the hunting site was an error on my part, I think that is where I am going next and when I was reading the article which the parenthetical post was extracted from, it maybe seemed I was posting results I had from hunting there. That isn't the case, I meant to post the link to the article, which I extracted parenthetical post. Somehow I copied the link to where I have been considering my next hunt, instead of the link to the article. I updated the original post to show the intended link to the quoted article. Been trying to be sure next hog I shoot in a traditional manner from maybe 40 yards, I wind up with in my freezer. So I have been searching for opinions from master hunters, what drops a hog, do I need to use a different rifle or what is the reality of the 450B and big Texas hogs. Conclusion, I will continue on the path to the next hog with my 450B and the 275 grain ammo I have ordered.
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